One of the horrible by-products of this entire Michael Vick controversy is the perception by some fans that it has been driven by race. It's easy for me (I'm Native American for those of you that care to know) to shoot down the race card, but that clearly hasn't been enough in some cases.After the most recent discussion, which became very racist, I began wondering what some Black bloggers around the net thought. Fueled by that curiosity, I caught up with Bijan Bayne, who writes for No-Huddle Offense, Outside Radio and various other sites.
Benton: "Many people feel like the hysteria surrounding Michael Vick is driven by race. Given what you've seen and read, do you feel the same way?"
Bayne: "I don't think the accusations are race-driven, as they are about a specific investigation and raid on the property of a player in a sport that is majority black. And he does own the buildings and land in question (as opposed to a general accusation about a phenomena such as steroid usage in baseball, where apparently more than one person, black, white and Latino, may have done so)."Dan: "I know there are many variables that go into this question, but do you believe Michael Vick is guilty of having knowledge of the dog fights? Do you believe he took part in organizing or betting on the alleged fights?"
Bayne: "I don't have enough information about Vick's hobbies and interests to know if Vick knew or took part, or [enough to] form a strong opinion thereabout. Witnesses would have to come forward and speak to that, or fellow players who have heard him speak of such. Again, it's not like HGH or PED usage where we can look at circumstantial evidence like performance after age 37, dramatic weight gain, or hair loss."Dan: "Should it be proven Michael Vick is guilty of playing any role in the dog fighting ring, what do you think his punishment should be?"
Bayne: "If it is proven Vick was aware of the proceedings, the penalty should be decided by a jury of magistrate in that jurisdiction of Virginia, based on animal treatment precedent. Unless you mean NFL or team penalty (which is up to those bodies)."Dan: "Do these accusations take away from the significant charity work Michael Vick has already done?"
Bayne: "Does a negative act affect or take away from one's philanthropic efforts? The charity work one has done stands on its own, as well as the poor decision's one has made; whether one is an athlete or not. The good can neither erase the bad nor the bad the good, although judges take character references and character testimony into account. Depending on the gravity of the offense of course, as premeditated murder, child abuse, certain other things are unacceptable in our society even if the culprit founded The Boys Scouts of America or UNICEF."Once again, a special thanks to Bijan Bayne for taking the time to sit down today. Hopefully this will help erase some of the racism and suggested racism that surround this entire situation.

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7-16-2007 @ 2:31PM
matt said...
The huge outrage is not from race but it is from the accusations dealing with dogs. Most people love dogs and see them as an extended part of their families. People think that the sport of dog fighting is cruel for the animals do not have the choice to fight or not. They are breed and trained to do the fighting. It also scares people that the dogs can be that vicious for they see other dogs play with theirs kids. It opens up the idea at any moment that dog playing with their child can become a killing machine
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7-16-2007 @ 3:08PM
Omar G said...
you interviewed a black blogger, and that is supposed to be a decent story. gimme a break, since when are black bloggers spokesmen for all blacks, me and many other african-americans in the south, know the vick story is sensationalized due to mike's skin colour, dog fighting is bad, but people are making vick look like he is worse than saddam hussein, there are bigger things to worry about in America such as the war, poverty, abused children, etc. than to worry about some fake investigation on vick. There is no point on attacking vick, the man has the money to get some smooth lawyers to take care of business for him.
Bijan Bayne aint a nobody, i havent even heard of him until this blog. Im also sick of white people going to a so-called "black spokesperson" every time something racial happens, you white people (or native american) always go to black to get what you wanna hear and always wanna get something to make you look good.
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7-16-2007 @ 3:18PM
Dan Benton said...
Omar G - See, that right there is the exact problem. Are you telling me that you aren't jumping to conclusions? Not once since this Vick saga started have I started this is a "top priority" within the USA. This is a sports site, thus we cover sports related stories.
Secondly, only NOW do you throw in "Native American;" something that never came up before. I've been called racist so many times for no legitimate reason, when it has been you readers classifying me. I am not "white," I am Native American and there is a huge different. And the only reason I threw that out there was to prove that the only people throwing the race cards, were some of you readers.
And other than this specific blog, name me a single time that any Native American "went to a black to get what they wanted to hear."
Finally, I never said Bayne was a spokesman for all African Americans. I simple said I wanted to hear from a black blogger -- you're the one who, once again, jumped to a conclusion.
The reality is this story would be covered just the same if the person was white, black, orange, green or blue. The bottom line is dozens of innocent dogs were brutalized and mistreated and there is no way that Vick knew NOTHING about it.
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7-16-2007 @ 3:22PM
Rusty Baird said...
Vick is going down!!!!! HAHA!!!!!!!! He's not very smart!!!! Any surprise there?????
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7-16-2007 @ 3:29PM
jack said...
This isnt race, but I am sure every Africian American will think it will be. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton see a dollar to be made so they will be in the middle of it until it gets messy and they will be the first to bale out.
This is about a quarterback in the NFL who has a home and its been used for dog fighting. If this was Peyton Mannings house the press would be the same. The difference is Payton isnt stupid and Vick is.
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7-16-2007 @ 4:04PM
Zach said...
Mike Vick may or may not have been involved in an activity that harmed animals. This activity is illeagal. Race has nothing to do with that... However, I bet if you pulled 10 random white people off the street and had them close their eyes and imagine a typical dogfight and then have them describe it to you, that description would sound a lot like a DMX or Tupac video. These allegations are not racist but as usual, the media portrays the situation in a racist way which leads to that random person's description. Dogs were domesticated about 25000 years ago. Ever since there have been people betting that my dog could kill your dog. Dogfighting is huge from Alaska to England from Russia to China to Africa to Scandinavia and race has never had a damn thing to do with it. Let the man make his money and entertain us and if he is found guilty treat him just like he was anyone else.
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7-16-2007 @ 4:08PM
Dave said...
Race? It appears that he trained dogs to rip each other's heads off. He could be either white, pink, yellow, or orange and I'd still want to rip his head off if the allegations are true (which they appear to be). Race doesn't have anything to do with it. The reason people have negative views towards Vick is because of the dog fighting, not because he is black.
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7-16-2007 @ 4:37PM
stunna2 said...
Dave,
Could you please point me to where it state's it "appear's" Vick's been training fight dog's or are you talking out from under you Klan mask again?
Mr. Noll,
What exactly has Vick done, in your book, that would constitute him being a waste of a human being? Please bear in mind that he's been neither convicted, nor accused of anything.
Dan Benton,
It's unfortunate that you had to resort to writing such a poor story. We both know the reason you threw the "Native American" part out was because you figured that would gather you some cool point's. Afterall, I don't recall anyone asking you your race. It's akin to the Klansmember saying "I'm not racist, I have alot of black friend's". It won't cut it here.
Bayne offered absolutely nothing to discussion, one way or the other. If you were concerned about the opinion's of your varied racial membership, you would've spoken with your blog reader's and not go about chasing down a black blogger who you felt would support your case. You didn't full me with that one Dan. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book.
I'd like to reiterate that this blog was garbage and self-supporting. Since you couldn't find one consider me, stunna2, a blogger who feel's this story is blown up based solely upon the race of the accused (or not accused in this case). It's unfortunate that you and you're pal's have, up until now, to base your case on nothing but heresay and your own personal feelings.
When you guy's are ready to discuss fact's and not your personal feeling's, I'll be a more than willing participant.
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7-16-2007 @ 5:09PM
Mike said...
If Peyton Manning was accused of dog fighting I'm sure the results would be the same.
But then again stunna... accusing someone of wearing a Klan mask isn't exactly polite either.
The racism door swings both ways buddy.
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7-16-2007 @ 5:11PM
Matthew.Noll said...
This story isn't driven by race. It's driven by Vick being a waste of a human being.
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7-16-2007 @ 5:20PM
Sim said...
Posted by stunna2:
"It's unfortunate that you and you're pal's have, up until now, to base your case on nothing but heresay and your own personal feelings."
The sentence immediately preceding that:
"Since you couldn't find one consider me, stunna2, a blogger who feel's this story is blown up based solely upon the race of the accused"
You're all over the place, chief. You can't ignore someone's opinion on the matter because it's only how they feel, then go on about your own feelings as if they take priority over his.
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7-16-2007 @ 5:30PM
bigkdslamme said...
It is all about race..The story is about people who stayed on Mr.Vick's property,and from day #1,white people and the media (which u run),and bloggers,have all called him guilty and stated that he is a human waste,etc...
If Vick were white,the people in question would be the ones residing at the home in Surrey County in VA..Only if he were white..
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7-16-2007 @ 6:08PM
Rokclimber said...
I could care less if he is white, black, yellow, blue, red, purple or any other color.
He very obviously knew and was very obviously involved in dogfighting. That much has been proven.
He owns properties in which dog fighting has occured. He has bought items HIMSELF used for dog fighting. Many have come forward, including teamates to verify he was heavily involved with dog fighting. many have come forward and said he was present and betted big on dog fights. Some firsthand reports have said he tortures and kills a dog if he loses money on it!!
IMO, this is not an issue of if he should be allowed to play football. IMO, he should never be allowed to touch a football again and he should let a jury of his peers decide how much time he has to live with Bubba as a roomate and lover.
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7-16-2007 @ 6:11PM
Rokclimber said...
Furthermore, if he is an Atlanta Falcon this year, I will NEVER watch a game. I will boycott anything that has to do with Vick.
Judging from what I hear, many will do the same thing.
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7-16-2007 @ 6:11PM
Unsilent Majority said...
"white people and the media (which u run)"
whoa whoa whoa
we all know that Jews run the media.
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7-16-2007 @ 6:32PM
bigkdslamme said...
It is race..Vick has said from the beginning that he is innocent..He has never lied about anything that is blown up by the media and bloggers..
#1,The STD issue..He did confess that he was ron mexico and went to the clinic to get tested,but the tests came back negative and yet the media and bloggers eat it up still.....
#2,The bird flipping incident..He flipped off Saints fans who were cursing at our players as they walked off the field and he wasn't having it..But as u know,the media and the bloggers insists to this day that he flipped off Falcon Fans..
THEY WERE SAINTS FANS..AND U KNOW WHAT??? IM GLAD HE DID IT..WE HATE THE SAINTS!!!
#3,The water bottle incident..Again,he stated he had no drugs in the bottle and no residue would be found,and as u have it,the media blew it up and so did u bloggers and now u see what has happened..The bottle was tested and no drugs nor drug residue was found..But yet,because he is darker than the Manning brothers,he is "Presumed guilty until proven innocent"...
#4,And now,he has stated in the beggining that he was innocent with the current dog investigation...
And he has stayed true to form..He proclaimed his innocence and he is always found out to be..
But u non-racist,keep going after him and other blacks in the news,but u don't ask the same questions about your own people!!
Urlacher,a great football player,but one who is calling a little boy a homosexual..And sending threatening text to someones phone!!
If he were black,u would be writing on how a thug he is,and talking about his being a bad role model and dad for what he is saying..ANd u are blaming the girl too!!!
Patrick Kerney,played with the falcons,and has a hoe for a female friend who invites strange unknown men to Pats house and she gets raped..Kerney is one quick to believe by white people!!
"I was sleep".."I didn't hear crap!!"..
And he paid the girl to come out and say he is innocent,and she did and no questions are asked even when its found out that she quit her job 2 weeks later and now has a new car..I wonder how she pulled dat off???Hmmmmmmm????????
Boy i tell U!!
White People!!
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7-16-2007 @ 8:10PM
stunna2 said...
Sim,
It's unfortunate that you've missed the entire point of that statement. It seem's that misconstruing information for one's own agenda (this case for instance)has continued to be the norm in America.
The fact remain's, Vick has been neither accused or convicted of a crime.
Argue the case on it's fact's and not personal feelings (bigoted or otherwise).
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7-16-2007 @ 9:34PM
ILLA said...
FIRST OFF THIS WHOLE THING GOT STARTED BY HIS LITTLE COUSIN GETTING ARRESTED....THE SON OF MIKES AUNT,THE CO OWNER OF THE HOUSE AND ONE OF MANY PROVIDED SHELTERS BY MR.MICHEAL VICK TO HIS ANUTS & UNCLES,COUSINS,PARENTS,SIBLINGS IN THE 757 AREA OF VA...ON SOMETHING THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH DOGS..... SO YEAH DOG FIGHTING IS A PART OF THE AFRICAN CULTURE..YEAH I SAID IT!! IT IS ESPECIALLY IN THE INNER CITIES....BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WERE TALKING ABOUT PITBULL'S NOT POODLES......DO YOU IN YOUR RIGHT MIND THINK VICK HAS BEEN HAND RAISING DOGS TO FIGHT, OVER THE PAST 7 TO 8 YEARS.
WITH ALL THE COMMERCIALS AND REQUIREMENTS OF HIS DAILY LIFE WHERE DOES HE GET THE TIME?
AND TO PUNISH AND EXCUTE A DOG THAT HE HASN'T BEEN AROUND. DO YOU THINK HE HAS THE BALLS TO WALK UP ON IT (KNOWING HE'S WORTH A 100 MILLION?
THE PERSON THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IS HIS BAD ASS COUSIN...IT'S HIS CHARGE THAT'S WHY VICK IS NOT NAMED BUT NAMED.... BECAUSE HE'S JUST TAKING CARE OF HIS FAMILY...( IN HOOD TERMS STOP HATING!!!)
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7-16-2007 @ 10:01PM
Sim said...
"It's unfortunate that you've missed the entire point of that statement. It seem's that misconstruing information for one's own agenda (this case for instance)has continued to be the norm in America."
What have in incorrectly interpreted? You comment on how you feel (using that exact word) about Vick's race being the only reason it is a story, then go on to say (only two sentences later) that it's "unfortunate that you and you're pal's have, up until now, to base your case on nothing but heresay and your OWN PERSONAL FEELINGS" (emphasis added). Putting aside whether Vick is guilty of anything, how is that not hypocritical?
"Argue the case on it's fact's and not personal feelings (bigoted or otherwise)."
The facts? Try reading PFT's summary of the facts and, before complaining about his being a white guy out to get Vick, realise that the site's author Mike Florio actually wrote a (fictional) book about a black quarterback dealing with prejudice:
http://www.profootballtalk.com/VickInvestigation.htm
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7-16-2007 @ 10:22PM
who cares said...
It isn't about race.
It's about humanity.
It is inhumane to see animals (dogs) kill each other.
It's even more inhumane to do it for money.
If he was involved he should be reprimanded. Not kicked out of the league or anything -- just fined.
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