The indictment of Falcons quarterback Michael Vick on conspiracy charges related to a dog fighting ring run on his property alleges that Vick provided the "purse" to the owners of the winning dogs. For instance, Page 13 of the indictment says this:In or about March of 2003, VICK retrieved a book bag from a vehicle containing approximately $23,000 in cash. The cash was provided to [a confidential witness working with the feds] as payment for winning both dog fighting matches.
To the average observer, electrocuting a dog or killing a dog by slamming it to the ground would seem like a worse offense than gambling. But in the NFL, gambling is a much more serious offense than dog fighting or animal cruelty. If the NFL investigates and concludes that a $23,000 payment to the owner of the winning dog was a form of banned gambling, Vick could face league discipline no matter how the dog fighting investigation is resolved.
I contacted the NFL to ask whether that would constitute a violation of the league's gambling ban; the league's only response was its prepared statement.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
7-17-2007 @ 8:20PM
jitesh patel said...
HECK YA FIRST TO COMMENT ON THIS STORY!! THE FALCONS ARE A SORRY ORGANIZATION YOU SEE WHAT YOU PUT YOURSELF THROUGH NOW THAT YOU TRADED QB SCHWABB WHO IS GOING TO LEAD YOUR TEAM? GOOD LUCK STARTING THAT BUM JOEY HARRINGTON WHO PLAYED FOR MY HOME TOWN DUCKS 6 TEARS AGO CAUSE ALL INDICATIONS POINT THAT VICK WILL BE SUSPENDED DONT KNOW HOW LONG BUT ITS LOOKING VERY BACK FOR THE ATL FALCONS I GUESS HERES YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN CULPEPPER SINCE HE JUST GOT RELEASED A FEW HOURS AGO TODAY
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7-17-2007 @ 8:29PM
Robert said...
Michael David Smith, slow down dude. You're posting on overdrive on this Vick indictment. LOL! Seriously man, don have an aneurysm...they look like they're going to get him.
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7-17-2007 @ 9:19PM
Danielle said...
im disapointed in Michael Vick. I always rooted for him in a football game. He brought a lot of excitement to the first games i saw. I love animals, and I don't think what hid did was right, but I hope all goes well and I hope to see him out on the football field as soon as possible.
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7-17-2007 @ 9:20PM
Fred said...
Once a thug always a thug. Grade school thug, middle school thug, high school thug, college thug, and now "a professional thug."
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7-17-2007 @ 9:30PM
Camie said...
Mike Vick is overrated and a frickin sick bastard. he's also dumb. couldn't he do anything better with his time and money?? the falcons suck and he sucks even more. i have been saying he's overrated for years when announcers like john madden were calling him "magical". i hope he ends up in the gutter, penny-less and i hope people can believe that pitbulls are not as evil as others make them out to be.
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7-17-2007 @ 10:33PM
Gary Malmberg said...
Stak, your 15 minutes are over. Vick is toast. Quit cutting on Smith and shut up already.
Vick will never be proclaimed innocent, Einstein. Not guilty does not mean innocent. We all know he's guilty. If he finds a way to not be convicted, doubtful, that's how the system works. We know what he has done. He is scum. Nothing you can do about that.
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7-17-2007 @ 11:44PM
Davesraves said...
I know some people who are vomiting right about now- it comes from eating your words (bigdkslammer,vince,dgtyjo,stunna2,stak,brendagirl, benjamin, various other racists).
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7-18-2007 @ 6:13AM
Robbo Trippy said...
Lets see, there are people starving in the USA and the entire world. There are murders, rapest, child moleters on our streets right now.
Who is it ? The FBI is and has spent how many thousands will end up being millions of dollars on a high profile person that won't be doing any of the mentioned above.
Lets see, there are people starving in the USA,,,,,,,
what is wrong with this story?
RTRIPP
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7-18-2007 @ 6:13AM
Robbo Trippy said...
Lets see, there are people starving in the USA and the entire world. There are murders, rapest, child moleters on our streets right now.
Who is it ? The FBI is and has spent how many thousands will end up being millions of dollars on a high profile person that won't be doing any of the mentioned above.
Lets see, there are people starving in the USA,,,,,,,
what is wrong with this story?
RTRIPP
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7-18-2007 @ 9:37AM
Terry said...
This proves just how stupid Atlanta was for picking a leader who runs like a chicken with its head cut off. None of these running q-backs ever secceed. Just look at Randall Cunningham; Donovan Mcknab and Vick to name a few. The can win games for you but will never take you to the promised land, If you want a good running back; hire one; but a ChickenHead will never win the superbowl
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7-18-2007 @ 10:12AM
Joan said...
I believe Michael Vick should get the fine for every dog he murdered and also get the six years per dog murdered and never get out of jail for being good in jail. He is the most cruel human being I know. We all know about other famous people that have gotten away with human murders and got off because they have money. They should take away every last cent he has ever made and never ever let him play football again!!! He is a disgrace to any race. I hope he has to look over his shoulder every minute of whatever time he has to do in jail and hope someone takes care of him the way he took care of those poor dogs.
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7-18-2007 @ 10:42AM
Boblifter said...
What is wrong with you people? Did we not learn anything from the Duke Lacrosse scandle? It's very easy to get an indictment, much harder to get a conviction. Let's withhold judgement until all the facts are in.
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7-18-2007 @ 10:46AM
cokooforcocoapuffs said...
As I read this story and the accusations of racism floated around I can't help to interject to make a distinction that is important. I do belieave that there is a racial component to this story (although I prefer to use the word culture and not race here). Dog fighting may be apalling to some who have learned to see dogs as almost human beings. Others have a different cultural view of dogs, in asia people eat the damn things for god's sake!!! Yes some of the tings in the report are cruel and there is no excuse for them. However at the same time the prevailing american "white" culture of pets makes this a very emotional issue for many sectors of american society.
That being said it must be born in mind that although the dominant culture surrounding animals as pets is at the center here, it is not "necesarilly racism" although that can be the case in some instances.
I prefer to look at it from a different point of view. We have the law in our society. It isn't perfect and peraps not even just all of the time, but laws, however flawed some of them maybe, is what allows us to live in relative peace. If you knowingly break the law, then you have to face the consequences. The question should be if Vick broke the law.
Robbo Trippy commented that there are bigger problems for the FBI to take care of, and I agree. However, at the same time we have to keep in mind that law enforcement needs to eforce all of the law, not just some cases, if not there would be no deterrent. The best way to do that, for good or ill, without going after everybody is to take a high profile case to make people aware that an activity breaks the law. Unfortunately for Vick, he has become that example. But no matter what you think, the evidence so far (although more scrutiny as to the source f th evidence is needed IMHO) indicates that he broke the law.
In the end it all comes down to one thing for me. There are times when circumstances push you to break the law (READ a book called "In Search of Respect" by Philip Burgois for an example). Michael Vick however had a very lucrative career in front of him and absolutely no need to put himself in a position on the wrong side of the law. If he knowingly and willingly put himself in that position, he has to accept the responsibility of his actions.
More and more we see athletes making bad desitions. I think a big problem is that the system that "makes" athletes is flawed, we concentrate in their phisical abilities in college but there is not enough education for being good citizens, good financial planners, etc. etc. Athletes, especially very gifted ones, are pampered to belieave that they are above the law. It is the culture of celebrity that loves to inflate egos up just to watch silently ready to pounce and shoot them down whenever possible. And that is not a feature African-American, white, Hispanic, asian or whatever other culture, that is part of the American culture that all in the "Non-melting-pot" seem to share.
Note: sorry about my english spelling, it is not my first language.
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7-18-2007 @ 11:36AM
CHRIS said...
FIRST OF ALL SPORTS PLAYERS ARE IN PUBLIC EYE AND CHILDREN ALL OVER LOOK UP TO THEM. ANIMAL CRUELTY IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. THERE TALKING ABOUT 6 YEARS? HOW ABOUT 20 - LIFE? THIS HAPPENED ON HIS PROPERTY, HE IS RESPONSABLE. THE NFL SHOULD NEVER ALLOW HIM TO WORK AGAIN. TEACH HIM A LESSON. IT WOULD BE THE WORST THING TO ALLOW HIM TO COME BACK TO WORK AND MAKE MILLIONS AFTER SUCH A HORRIFIC EVENT. HE WILL NEVER LEARN. IF IN THE END I SEEM TO HARSH TO DONT CARE, IM SICK OF PUBLIC FIGURES GETTING PAID REDICULOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY JUST TO GO AROUND THINKING THAT THEY ARE ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE. THEY THEN BREAK THE LAW IN HORIFFIC WAYS AND GET OFF EASY. THESE PEOPLE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT OTHERS LOOK UP TO YOU AND WANT TO BE YOU, LETS LEAD BY EXAMPLE. ITS THINGS LIKE THIS CRUELTY THAT PUTS THE NATION IN A BAD EYE.
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7-18-2007 @ 1:07PM
cherylynn2005 said...
VIOLATING GAMBLING REGULATIONS?????????????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????????? WHAT ABOUT JUST PLAIN CRUELTY TO ANIMALS? THIS GUY IS A LOW-LIFE AT THE VERY LEAST. GIVE HIM WALKING PAPERS. HE CAN FLIP BURGERS FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. TRY PLACING A 40,000 BET NOW LOSER!
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7-18-2007 @ 1:42PM
Tara said...
This is not a racial, economic, or cultural issue. It is not a culture that teaches people to behave in such a manner any more than it is a culture who teaches people to murder, rape, molest, etc. Vic is an arrogant and cruel individual who finds entertainment in the sickest of things!!!
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7-18-2007 @ 2:19PM
karen kennedy said...
Hello, There is definetly different ways people live in America. Its like Rome. I think sports are too violent and get too much attention. Its so commercial, what about well to -do people spending their time and money on something usefu, like visitng the elderly or trauma victim, or calling a senator about animal rights or reading! What is going on with Black culture in AMerica? Feel alientated? !
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7-18-2007 @ 3:04PM
CSJOLY said...
There is also a form of "ism" called "speciesism" that applies in this case - a prejudice against Pit Bulls - they are wonderful, loving, loyal dogs. For any person (of any race) to use them in fights and execute them for poor performence, etc. is barbaric. Those persons should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. As for the moron who said that in some countries, dogs are food - those would be barbaric countries that don't hold any life sacred, human or canine. This is America, and an All-American breed, the American Pit Bull Terrier is the victim here - the criminals should be punished no matter who they are.
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7-18-2007 @ 7:53PM
Kris said...
Mr. Vick needs to spend the next thirty years behind bars. The issue of dog fighting has been raised to a felony charge in most states in the U.S. with others in the process of raising the penalty level. There is no excuse in the world for this level of cruelty. There is no defense for this activity.
Dog fighting has increasingly become an integral part of black culture over the past thirty years. It is a huge problem and often law inforcement itself is caught up in the money making aspect of this activity while the cruelty and suffering of innocent animals is ignored.
When prominent black men like Vick ignore any shred of humanity toward the life of an animal it sends a message to black America that it is O.K. to treat an animal like trash. I am not O.K. with that message.
This dehumanization factor is one of the reasons you have young black men shooting down black children every day in the streets of inner cities such as Philadelphia. The message Vick sends is that it is O.K. to abuse and dominate those weaker than you by force or threat of death.
I think it is long past time that Mr. Vick got a taste of the torture he has been handing out since his college years with dog fighting.
He needs to be made an example of for all of the needless deaths and torture he has caused.He is the piece of garbage here and he needs to be treated as such.
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7-18-2007 @ 8:00PM
Debbie said...
Wheather Vick is guility or not. It's sad that there are people who are more concerned about issues other than crulety. It is sick when a person wants to trap 2 animals together and watch them fight to the death. That's right up there with child molesters. Punishment for dog fighters...trap them with each other in a fight to the death, the one left alive needs to be casterated. Gene pool & mind set weeding.
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