Last week Jason Whitlock noted that Deadspin's Will Leitch, in his recent book, God Save the Fan, "spends an inordinate amount of time telling prominent, successful, well-spoken African-Americans that they're not really black." Whitlock also referred to Leitch's NPR appearance some four months ago, where the same subject had come up.I'm black, hardly prominent, debatably successful, and relatively well spoken. And I was dumbfounded when I heard the NPR interview. Not because of the sentiment, but because NPR's Scott Simon appeared to have exposed a blind spot in Leitch's thinking. It seemed upon listening that it had never occurred to Leitch that what he was writing might be problematic to some people.
I didn't write about the NPR show. In four years of blogging, I've never written about race and sports, because my focus has always been about the games, the players, the fans.
But I think race does belong in the discussion that's followed Leitch's appearance on Costas Now last week, because so far it seems Whitlock and one lonely blog are the only ones taking the lead. After reading Leitch's response to Whitlock's column, I e-mailed asking if he'd be willing to answer some questions. He agreed, and the short interview is after the jump.
In January NPR's Scott Simon, accused you of having "a problem." Specifically, he was referring to the "jokes" in your book where you questioned the "blackness" of various black sports figures. At the time, you didn't post a link to the interview on the site, and a quick search on Google shows only one blog, Can't Stop the Bleeding, referenced it. Why didn't you mention it on Deadspin?
Honestly? I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed by how I handled the interview, sure, but mostly I was embarrassed that he'd called out something that hadn't even occurred to me and, upon retrospection, was absolutely justified. We did mention in the review of the book on the site, but I wasn't in the habit of linking to discussions of the book -- the one part of Whitlock's column I would take issue with was the overpromotion of the book; I thought I was pretty good about it, actually -- and certainly wasn't going to start with that. But mostly: I sounded like a moron. I've sounded like a moron in many interviews, but none worse than that one. I was stunned, and to this day have zero idea what I was trying to say.
You also wrote about the Whitlock column: "A nationally recognized sports columnist, on a widely read national Web site, calls us out [for the NPR interview], and we received a total of one email about it." Do you think that non-response the column generated had more to do with your readers than the author being black? Why do you think it got so little play in the blogosphere?
I'm not so sure that people are afraid of pissing off me, or Deadspin. I think I've been pretty level-headed in giving plenty of play for all viewpoints, even those that aren't fans of what we do (I've even linked to CSTB on occasion), and if anyone thinks I"m going to blackball someone because they criticize me, they are mistaken.
Last year, you had a post on ESPN Magazine GM Keith T. Clinkscales calling out Whitlock for calling out Scoop Jackson. In the last paragraph, you wrote, "We feel unqualified to take a side in this battle..." Are you saying, "I'm white, so when two black guys are arguing about race, I have nothing valuable to add"?
I meant that exactly as I wrote it: I felt unqualified in taking a side, and still do.
Whitlock, in his column, also wrote that he reads Deadspin less frequently after the whole Super Bowl/A.J. Daulerio/Stuart Scott post. Do you have any regrets about things you've posted in the past?
Well, Daulerio did the reporting on that one, so I'll leave that to him. But yes, there are things I have regrets about posting. Not many, but when you've been doing the site for three years like I have, and doing 30 posts a day, there will be the occasional post I wish I had back. Not many. But some.
... And that's where we left it. For my part, I think Leitch is wrong about why virtually no one beyond CSTB discussed the NPR interview, though I believe him that he would never blackball a site for criticism.
Leitch is, by all accounts, an extremely nice guy, and we respect him for being modest here. But.
Bloggers of every stripe go looking for links from the biggest sites, but traffic considerations don't come close to explaining Deadspin's place in the sports blogosphere. As the sphere has grown year after year, Leitch has remained the tastemaker. It wouldn't be in any blogger's interests to highlight anything that accused Leitch of racial insensitivity.
And that means blogs are just as guilty as the MSM echo chamber here. We're forever lamenting how the media play favorites, use sloppy logic, or arbitrarily choose which issues to ignore. Well, if we won't criticize the biggest name in the community, we're being half-assed ourselves.

Reader Comments ( Page 1 of 1)
1. Great work with this here, especially with your summation at the end about blog on blog criticism.
It's a point that's rarely brought up, but is undeniably true.
Posted at 2:14PM on May 6th 2008 by PostmanR
2. "Well, if we won't criticize the biggest name in the community, we're being half-assed ourselves."
Agreed...great point.
Posted at 3:15PM on May 6th 2008 by Dennis
3. Great post, Ryan.
It should be pointed out that CSTB seems to truly loathe Leitch. CSTB is an excellent site, but it would be nice if there was some criticism from a different, less hateful viewpoint.
(And yes, what Will wrote about hateful comments inevitably appearing on other mass market blogs is certainly occasionally true of FanHouse.)
Posted at 4:03PM on May 6th 2008 by JCN
4. Even Google didn't take you to www.sportsonmymind.com? I have nothing to do with the site besides reading it, but they've been calling out Deadspin on race for ages and specifically in the last two days.
Posted at 8:38PM on May 6th 2008 by k
5. I had never heard of the NPR interview before this, but it is worth a listen.
I think you're right, that Will Leitch is more than just the manager of a lot of traffic -- he almost has Mottram blogfather status. And that probably does stifle some of the criticism he might otherwise receive. And that's not his fault, it's our fault.
Posted at 9:03AM on May 7th 2008 by Miss Gossip
6. Yes Ryan, your ending is right on target! Amen. We ARE guilty! The stifling of good constructive criticism does the blogosphere no good. I, for one, join Will wholeheartedly in calling out the mainstream. But how and when do we clean our own frat house when everyone is afraid to speak up for fear of losing links? (this point is not even debateable)
Related to JCN's comment, I've got no hate for the man (people tell me he is a nice guy), but broke a previous no-blog-criticism policy because the blogosphere is under unprecedented scrutiny, and he is in a unique position to improve our image. And K is right, sportsonmymind has not been silent.
"Good Will Hunting": Deadspin's Debt to Blogciety
http://sportsonmymind.com/2008/05/05/good-will-hunting-deadspins-debt-to-blogciey/
Posted at 12:13PM on May 7th 2008 by MODI
7. "It should be pointed out that CSTB seems to truly loathe Leitch. CSTB is an excellent site, but it would be nice if there was some criticism from a different, less hateful viewpoint."
Thanks for the kind words, John, but I don't think my post regarding the NPR interview (http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/?p=12360) was particularly hateful. If you're suggesting that no one is likely to take my further criticism of Will seriously given the pre-existing animosity, I suppose that's a fair point. I'll just leave it at saying Simon wasn't the first person to take Leitch to task on the racial tip and it doesn't appear as though he'll be the last, either.
For whatever it is worth, I don't think Will or any other blogger (pro or not) is obliged to link to anyone. But it would be equally bogus to claim there's no bias whatsoever.
Posted at 10:15PM on May 10th 2008 by Gerard Cosloy